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Rules and Administration / Re: Registrations and Rejections
« on: December 27, 2014, 10:24:55 PM »
That's ridiculous, sorry you have to go through all of that!  But Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you!

Introductions / Re: 100 Members
« on: November 30, 2014, 01:30:31 AM »
So who got the 200th cookie?   ;D

Wads and Lubes / Re: Makin' lube.
« on: August 07, 2014, 09:37:21 AM »
There's a many recipes as people offering them!  If it works well for you, keep at it. 

What are you using it for?  I have separate recipes for lube over the ball and lubing conicals and make my own bore butter now too for a fraction of the cost of those tubes.  Curiously, I came across the 1862 US Army recipe for lubing conicals which was 1 part Mutton Tallow and 8 parts Beeswax.  My own is nothing like that but of course, now I have to try it out! 

Caps / Re: Winchester Magnum BP Caps #11
« on: August 04, 2014, 10:54:31 AM »
No.  Take it for what it's worth, I read somewhere that Winchester simply rebrands CCI caps.  Like CCI, Winchester only offers the magnums in number eleven size.  Curiously they are $10 a tin at my local Basspro while the others are $2 less.

Caps / Re: Remington No. 10 percussion caps
« on: July 25, 2014, 08:22:52 AM »
Thanks for posting.  Bought a 1000 of each before they ran out last time.

Originals / Re: Information on original cases
« on: July 14, 2014, 05:20:48 PM »

I learned two things:  Colt called the cones nippples back then and second, was thorough on how to take the revolver apart but vague on actual cleaning.  Pretty cool.

Originals / Re: Information on original cases
« on: July 12, 2014, 11:16:56 AM »
pretty sure it is for a '62 police, Prolly 6 1\2 barrel, I don't have one (yet) but my "49 is a tiny bit tight where the loading leaver is hinged. Its quite a small box and in rather poor condition inside.

Could you kindly post a readable picture of the cleaning directions?  Would love to see what was recommended back then!

General / Re: Engraving
« on: July 02, 2014, 08:35:58 PM »
Nice work and thanks for sharing!

Savage Arms / Re: My Savage Navy Revolver
« on: June 27, 2014, 07:46:43 PM »

very nice Savage.  Thanks for sharing and enjoy it!

Introductions / Re: Hello from Bulgaria
« on: May 25, 2014, 12:57:49 PM »
Welcome Vladmir!  Do you have any percussion revolvers from your area?

General / Re: What brand?
« on: April 24, 2014, 02:27:38 PM »
Often the name is spelled out or a portion of the name, like SM, S Marco or ASM or San Marco, they were all over the place.  There are photos on the forums of their not often used logo, I don't remember it as none of mine have it. 

General / Re: What brand?
« on: April 23, 2014, 10:18:32 PM »
Welcome to the forum!

Your 5-shot .31 is likely an old Armi San Marco which is now out of business.  The only company that still makes them today is Uberti.  Pietta and Uberti both make the Colt 1851 Navy both are generally excellent in fit and finish and quality.

The Remington New Model Army is also offered by Pietta and Uberti in the United States.  The Uberti model is very closely sized to the originals while the Pietta are slightly oversized.  Again, the fit and finish and quality of both generally are excellent.

The Colt revolvers are natural pointers, the Remingtons have better sights and can take heavier loads, especially when compared to the brass framed revolvers.

Some will argue that you get a nicer gun by going Uberti, many others are very happy with the fit and finish of their lower priced Pietta's, myself included.


Target & Plinking / Re: Rudy Is Right
« on: March 16, 2014, 04:53:49 PM »
I considered the same with my 5.5" but I was solo that day and could not shoot 140 rounds in one day (not physically able) like that.  I did run a similar test with the Belt Revolver (.36 cal) with both round ball and conicals and learned that that gun loves the most powder possible to shoot the tightest groups. 

Next time out I'll shoot the winners again from 25 feet, then 50 feet and take the best one and shoot ten more rounds at 25 and 50 yards each.  That should settle it.

By then I'll be out of Shuetzen powder and be using Olde Eynsford from then on and have to do it all over again! 

I do plan to use the Chrony to test those most powerful and accurate round ball and conical loads, maybe in the fall when it's cooler out.

Target & Plinking / Rudy Is Right
« on: March 12, 2014, 03:47:52 AM »
For years people had been writing that a 28 grain charge of 3Fg was the sweet spot for a Pietta Remington revolver accuracy wise.  They stated that anything over this, accuracy diminished. 

Others said the competition shooters use 15 grains of 3Fg and 25 grains of cream of wheat to get the ball just under the end of the chamber and use grease over the ball for lubrication.

Then fellows with a name behind their claims like Rudy said to use 35 grains of 3Fg and a wad for power and accuracy.

So yesterday I set out to test these ideas and came up with 14, 5 round groups to shoot at 25 feet for this battery of tests.  Two patches sprayed with Ballistol were run down the barrel between each 5-shot string.

The first 4 targets of 5 rounds each were to use cream of wheat to fill the chamber over 15, 20, 24 and 30 grain charges of Schuetzen 3Fg with grease over the balls.  The best 5-shot group by over an inch went to the 15gr charge at 2.44.  Eliminating the flyer, the best group went to the 30gr charge which came in at .88.

The next 4 targets still used the cream of wheat but now included a lubricated wad instead of grease over the ball.  Again the 15gr charge won at 2.38 for the 5-shot group and the 24gr charge won the 4-shot group at 1.13

The following 3 targets were grease over the ball only, the round seated directly on top of the black powder.  24, 30 and 35 grain charges were used for these six tests.  The winner of the 5-shot group was the 35gr charge at 2.75 and it also won the 4-shot with 1.19 grouping.

Finally, it was the wads turn to run solo and again the 35gr charge came out on top both times with tiny 1.13 and .88 groups respectively.

This gun likes the extremes, 15grains for plinking and 35gr for max flame and boom.  When that thing went off at 35 grains, all other shooters stopped to watch!

The next battery of tests will reproduce the best 35gr loads at 25 feet and then at 50 feet.  Then the gun will shoot the better of those two at 25 and 50 yards.

I will likely run this again or something similar as the Schuetzen is about gone and Olde Eynsford is expected to replace it.

Rudy is right!

- James Burns

Reproduction / Re: Double case for the Pocket Police.
« on: March 10, 2014, 12:04:27 AM »
Colt made a specific mold for the .36 caliber pocket models which was labeled 36P.  The ones I've seen are steel and all black in color.  I believe that Pedersoli makes a reproduction.  Enjoy making it and do post pictures! 

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